Black Seas Baraccuda

Jargo

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How big is it? I know it's one of the two largest pirate ships. I'm just wondering if I actually have room for it. I'm thinking I really need to get my pirates a ride. And a pirate ship would serve two purposes, obviously being a pirate ship in a pirate setup but i was thinking it might also work as a themed floating restaurant in my town.

So does anyone know the dimensions roughly? Pwetty pwease...:love:
 

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I'm assuming you mean the Black Seas Barracuda. :rolleyes: LEGO n00b!

It's about this long *stretches arms out* and this tall *stretches 'em again*. Does that help any?

I have no clue. You could always go on eBay and ask one of the sellers of the set what the dimensions are. If you don't have an eBay account just let me know if you want me to ask one of the sellers. :yes:
 

Jargo

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At least I got one of the letters doubled up. And you knew what i meant. so ner :silly:

I found this while searching ebay. A 100% knock off version.

http://www.liangdianup.com/images/toys/blocks/blackpearl_a_800.jpg

compare with the original

http://www.1000steine.com/brickset/images/6285-1.jpg

There's a few differences in build and some non lego copy parts but so much is replicated, even down to using the same paint tampo stamping. Y'know I might just get the cheap knock off version and save a bundle.
 

Jargo

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they've also duplicated the armada flagship with a few build changes and copied the Chinese Junk from the Orient adventure sub theme. There's a couple of other sets from pirates duplicated but not ships. one is the shipwreck island the other is a small set I haven't identified yet.

but yes it's odd they've been so out and out bold replicating so closely. At least it's old sets though. and not packaged as Lego. my BF just bought me the 'black pearl' so i shall be able to let you know within a month how this thing fares against Lego quality.

have to say the aircraft carrier set from BRICK has some great deck pieces. though i'm sure it's probably a megabloks knock off. the communist chinese military minifigs are pretty cool and I bet they'd go great with the nazis and russians from the indiana jones sets.
 

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I've actually got two older pirate ships in my LEGO collection (maybe 25-30 sets at most...NOT including Star Wars). One is the Carribean Cruiser (or is it cutter) and the other one I can't remember the name for the life of me. It's got just one main mast and the sail is tan with crossed cannons. It also has a smaller sail connected to the main mast that moves almost like it's a rudder.

I remember the Black Seas Barracuda when I was a kid and that was always one of the sets that I really wanted (a few others were the Launch and Load Seaport and the Model Team Monster Big Rig).
 

Jargo

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black seas barracuda was the ship they should have released as a legend instead of the red beard runner. wait, maybe they did. don't have my old lego catalogues to hand to check. red beard runner is pants. compared to the 'cuda anyway.

caribbean clipper has blue and white stripey sails. Imperial flagship would be other. probably. soldiers rather than pirates crewing both?
 

LusiferSam

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Ok the Barracuda is about 23" (58 cm) long, 19" (48 cm) tall and around 10" (25 cm) wide.

The Barracuda is my personal favorite Lego set of all time. It's the best of the pirate ships and one of the great sets of all time. Lego did re-issue it in '02. But it's not 100% the same as the '89 version. The piece count is different and I've heard there were some part difference. A quick scan of Peeron didn't net any major.

It's correct that the ships Slicker are describing are the Caribbean Clipper, the blue soldier's ship, and the Imperial Flagship, the red soldier's ship. I like the Imperial Flagship better of the two (but I also the Imperial Guards better too). Both are much better than the Armada Flagship.
 

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Yes. The other is the Imperial Flagship.

I think the one major difference that people had with the re-issue of the Barracuda was that the cannons didn't fire like back in the day.
 

LusiferSam

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I think the one major difference that people had with the re-issue of the Barracuda was that the cannons didn't fire like back in the day.
No, that's incorrect. Most of the Barracudas sold in the US had cannons that didn't fire. The four original sets in '89 did have cannons that fired. My Forbidden Island, which I got in '89, came with a firing cannon. Sometime in early '90 Lego stop selling the functional cannons and started selling the disabled cannons. Most of my '89 and '90 Pirates have these cannons. I'm told you can enable a disabled cannon be opening it up and adding a spring. I've try this before, needed four hands. Maybe I'll try again today. Starting in '91 Lego changed their cannons again. This time they are non-firing. Again this is for the US. Europe is a different story. They had firing cannons much longer, but did move to non-firing.
 

Jargo

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I shall let you know if the knock off version of the barracuda has firing cannon or not.

And my bf just bought me the viking ship versus the midguard serpent which is uber cool. two big ships for my birfday. Yaaaay!!
 

LusiferSam

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Well after trying again to open a disabled cannon and enable it, I just bought some shooting cannons. I can see what to do and how to do it in terms of opening the cannon up. But I just can't seems to do it. It's almost like Lego didn't want you to open them. ;) Anyway I got four shooters, plus my original. So now I need to decide whether I upgrade the Barracuda or the Eldorado Fortress and Caribbean Clipper. I don't have to decide right away because the cannons, a long with the other parts I bought, are airing out. They're a little smoky. :(
 

Jargo

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the worst part of buying separate pieces is smells from snaplock bags. I buy a fair bit from an australian dude and the sammich bags they send the stuff in smell like death. excellent condition parts but those bags make it all awful smelly. It's like a smell I've only ever encountered in homes of people on welfare. like greasy food mixed with baby products, smoke and dog.
 

LusiferSam

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These person is a BrickLink seller. Normally I've had good luck with BrickLink. This is the first time I've really had to let an order air out. I've read the you can speed the process up by dropping the pressure the ABS is under. Something about lower pressure causes out gassing in ABS. But I don't have a vacuum chamber or access to one. :(
 

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Take some cheap box fan, either place the parts over the fan or place the fan over the parts so that it sucks away from the parts, let it run for a few days, that helps a lot. Make sure the fan's motor doesn't burn up though, some cheap fans are really poorly made.
 

Jargo

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Still waiting for the knock off pirate ship to arrive. they say ten to nineteen days and it's been ten today. hopefully over the next week I'll be able to take posession and photograph the non Lego pieces. i discovered there are two variants on this set. the sails are very different. I dig the gold stripes. very Vegas.
 

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The one with the black sails looks like another pirate ship. For the life of me I can't remember what it's called but it was another one of those sets that I really wanted.
 

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I'm gonna get the BSB someday. I've always wanted it but could never afford it when I was a kid. I recently bought a lot of 80s and 90s castle sets off ebay to complete my collection (including the Black Monarch's Castle, Black Knight's Casle, Black Falcon's Fortess and the Old BF 1984 casle with the red gate) I think with time I should be able to track down a BSB that's in good shape and don't stink.