Not at all happy with the current direction of SW EU

Darth Metalmute

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I couldn't believe the cost of paperbacks either. Thought I was paying the "old" Canadian price at first.

Any old book stores near you, DM? Or check online: you can find cheap copies of the "real" books, without such graffiti on the covers. :rolleyes:
They had a mixture, but the thought of the having to "relearn" Star Wars disgusted me.

I don't understand why they are redoing the EU from the Clone Wars Era. That should at least be up to date I would think. The new timeline in the book just looks empty.

I finished Tarkin yesterday. While it was a decent read, it seemed like less than a story worthy of a book and more of a biography. Seems like they could have just done an entire back story for Tarkin instead of intertwining it with a minor new story. I suppose I understand the importance of it, but the "present" story just didn't have a book worthy feel.
 

Bel-Cam Jos

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I couldn't believe the cost of paperbacks either. Thought I was paying the "old" Canadian price at first.

They had a mixture, but the thought of the having to "relearn" Star Wars disgusted me.

I don't understand why they are redoing the EU from the Clone Wars Era. That should at least be up to date I would think. The new timeline in the book just looks empty.
I saw a comic trade paperback (also listed with "Legends" on it :( ) that has Shadows of the Empire included. With all the Lucas-backed support of that, even IT can't avoid the re-labeling? Too bad.
 

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I saw a comic trade paperback (also listed with "Legends" on it :( ) that has Shadows of the Empire included. With all the Lucas-backed support of that, even IT can't avoid the re-labeling? Too bad.
That's disappointing. They still use the Black Sun in the new EU, and there is no reason to rewrite the story between ESB and ROTJ. It was perfect.
 

Bel-Cam Jos

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So, it's been some time since the "old" was wept away for the "new," and even though millions of voices cried out, and were silenced by what was published anyway, do you feel something terrible has happened? We better get on with our studies. :foreheadrub: :eek:

What would you consider "I really miss this"? Or, "I am glad that's gone"? There have been some aspects that have stayed since Disney started releasing their books: locations (IIRC, Bilbringi and Bothawui have been mentioned), daily life (caf is back), individuals (Jaxxon's been "referenced" in some).

I really miss this:
Thrawn
Mara
Jacen & Jaina
transparisteel
Sithspawn (or other SW universe curses)
Wedge (at least his persona from EU)
Corran Horn
Talon Karde
Pellaeon
Noghri

I am glad that's gone:
Darth Cadeus
Chewie's death
Yuzzan Vong
clone Emperor
Brakiss

Add to this list (LISTS... :drool: ), by all means.
 

El Chuxter

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I miss Waru.

Seriously, though, I liked the Yuuzhan Vong overall. The execution wasn't always the best, but the idea was solid.
 
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Came across this interesting article today from Timothy Zahn and his opinion on the EU.

Via Inverse.com:
Timothy Zahn is basically the guy who made The Force Awakens before The Force Awakens. In 1991, Zahn’s first chapter in the so-called “Thrawn Trilogy” of Star Wars Expanded Universe books, called Heir to the Empire, introduced an official continuation of the saga after the events of Return of the Jedi. Beloved by many Star Wars fans, it quickly became a New York Times bestseller, and it’s perhaps the pinnacle of the Expanded Universe. But ever since Disney’s Star Wars takeover in 2012 rendered all Expanded Universe stories unofficial and labeled under the Star Wars “Legends” banner, fans have been up in arms over their favorite stories suddenly being disqualified. In a new interview with Zahn on The Daily Dot from Awesome Con in Washington, D.C., the author tells EU fans to basically accept it.
To many, Zahn’s writing is exhibit A in why the Expanded Universe is so vital. The titular blue-skinned Imperial grand admiral named Thrawn who lead a First Order-esque splintered Empire five years after Return of the Jedi and his Imperial agent Mara Jade (who would eventually marry Luke Skywalker in the EU mythos), continue to be fan favorites. But they’re no longer canon, which caused EU-die hards to engage in increasingly desperate movies like erect billboards calling for the EU to be made official again or take to social media with hashtags like “#GiveUsLegends”. How dare Lucasfilm take away the precious, sometimes way overly complicated and hopelessly geeky Expanded Universe.
Zahn told The Daily Dot that angry fans should just slow their roll. He said:
“I can understand the feeling of camaraderie, the feeling of, ‘This is our people, this is our organization, these are our books.’ But at some point, you just have to take a deep breath and [say], ‘OK, that is over. We accept it. We go on. We’ve got the books.’
Later, Zahn explained that fans should stay pragmatic about the EU: “Think of the Expanded Universe [as if] it’s been frozen in carbonite for the moment, he said, and later, “I appreciate the fan loyalty, but, as you say, they’re not going to influence what Disney does or [what] Lucasfilm does.”
Quite rightly, Zahn explains that while the EU is over as fans know it, it’s not like these stories so many fans love are going anywhere. It’s not like Kathleen Kennedy is pulling a Darth Vader and sending out probe droids across the galaxy to snatch up everybody’s Thrawn Trilogy. They’re there to be enjoyed as unofficial Legends. But, as Zahn also points out, the Expanded Universe wasn’t really ever official regardless of what the fans thought.
 

Bel-Cam Jos

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So, it's been some time since the "old" was wept away for the "new," and even though millions of voices cried out, and were silenced by what was published anyway, do you feel something terrible has happened? We better get on with our studies. :foreheadrub: :eek:

What would you consider "I really miss this"? Or, "I am glad that's gone"? There have been some aspects that have stayed since Disney started releasing their books: locations (IIRC, Bilbringi and Bothawui have been mentioned), daily life (caf is back), individuals (Jaxxon's been "referenced" in some).

I really miss this:
Thrawn
Mara
Jacen & Jaina
transparisteel
Sithspawn (or other SW universe curses)
Wedge (at least his persona from EU)
Corran Horn
Talon Karde
Pellaeon
Noghri

I am glad that's gone:
Darth Cadeus
Chewie's death
Yuzzan Vong
clone Emperor
Brakiss

Add to this list (LISTS... :drool: ), by all means.
I read a book from the pre-Disney sale days, which then places it in this thread. I did not buy it back in 2011 because it was a hardcover (I rarely bought those back then) and a re-issue: Heir to the Empire: 20th Anniversary Edition. I did not realize it was annotated; Timothy Zahn and Betsy Mitchell the publisher/editor commented in the margins about character decisions, names, keep-ins or take-outs, Tuckerization (the insertion of people's names into books by changing/transposing their names), allusions, etc. AND, there's a novella about Thrawn (I did know about that in '11, but couldn't justify a $30 book for 50+ pages). Wow. I wish I'd read this earlier, so I could have spoken to him about those comments when I saw him at the Comic Con Revolution a month ago.
 
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At Celebration 2012, a Jaina Solo series was announced. Sword of the Jedi. The first book was supposed to come out that fall or spring 2013. Three-book series. Showed us a picture of the proposed cover. It was scrapped with the sale a couple of months later. If the publisher kept to the schedule, the third and final book was to be released last year.

There were other books mentioned at the panel; some have been released, others not. But of all of those, the Sword of the Jedi series was the one I had high hopes for, and wanted to read.
 

Bel-Cam Jos

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And in case you're asking, Timothy Zahn himself said that Disney/Lucasfilm is not interested in "Infinities"- or Legends-type stories anymore. So, unless some of those "I really miss" characters end up in a film, TV series, or other novel/comic; they'll be only in those old books. :(