Review solo after you have watched it

Tycho

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#1
I loved this movie and it was everything I hoped it would be. Alden did a much better job acting then I thought he would. He is welcome to play Han Solo. But I was pleasantly surprised.

This was written or looked after by someone who knew all the expanded universe pretty well.

The Maw, the Imperial Academy at Caridia.

It worked!

Who was the Wookiee Chewie touched heads with. It looked male, and had strange lack of facial hair. His father?
 

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I think it was just a fellow (lady?) Wookiee in trouble, not necessarily a relative (I think Chewie would've reacted MUCH faster if he knew the identity).

Clint Howard was cast perfectly.

Did I hear Lando mention the Flamewind of Oseon in that last card game? I think I did... :thumbsup: His skiff guard outfit? His capes? Excellent!

So, Aurra Sing is dead by this point, eh? Comic series to show how?

Not only is the Anakin lightsaber a hand-me-down, but apparently the Solo chance cubes are, too. I am glad that Han didn't fall into a pit of Gundarks, cut his chin with a Force whip (they left that mark alone, wisely).

I liked it. It wasn't as good as Rogue One, but that was a really great film. The audience I saw it with yesterday missed several key lines or images, but I am sure after repeat viewings, people will talk.
 
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Mad Slanted Powers

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I didn't hear Lando mention Flamewind, but I did hear him say Starcave. On second viewing, I heard "Sharu" when he was first dictating his "Chronicles".

I didn't notice Clint Howard, so I had to look up which character he was.

I enjoyed the movie. I liked a lot of the references to other source material, such as Bossk, Aurra Sing, and Colo claw fish.

I think I was a little disappointed after the first viewing because of how much I liked the A.C. Crispin trilogy, and wishing they had kept more of that. However, this was a good story, and they kept the general idea of his background. The ending was a perfect setup for another Solo movie or tie-in to another movie. I look forward to seeing what else is to come. Also, I really need to start reading some of the new canon books.
 
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El Chuxter

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I'll concur with y'all.

Also, while looking for who played HIM, I couldn't help but notice another shocker: Warwick Davis's character is named Weazel, meaning he's the same SOB who mocked Anakin from Watto's private box. That dude just became one of the most interesting unexplored characters in the galaxy.
 

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I was wondering if those beasts in this one scene were nerfs. I think it was on the planet after the train thing and before they went to see Vos.
That was my first thought, too. I looked for any herders; none I could see.

So, here is what is still on the table, since these weren't addressed in the film:
- Corellian Blood Stripes
- Battle of Tanaab
- Cloud City, Lobot, Ugnaughts
- Boba Fett's connections to Han
- Han's father (mother?)
- Gundarks and their arms
- Han's spice dumping
- Lando's OWN shirt hidden somewhere in the Falcon, and NOT maybe-dead-Han's shirt (end-of-ESB)
- Corporate Sector & ESPOS, Star's End
- Bria? (or, like Jacen & Jaina, has she just been combined into Qi'Ra?)
- Jaxxon and the rest of their team?
- Chewie's bowcaster, and how his bandolier changes
 
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I preface my spoiler-free comments on Solo by saying that I doubt I am the target audience of Star Wars anymore. Star Wars is no longer the exclusive domain of old school nerds growing up in the 80s with comics, sci-fi, action figures, and what not - nearly everyone now has a Star Wars connection and I'm not upset about that at all (the "told you so" effect). Star Wars has evolved, but what I want or expect from its films and action figures has not and probably will not. I'm not a hater of other people's opinions nor do I believe that my childhood is ruined by current movies (I survived three prequels after all) nor do I think the only way to like Star Wars is the way I like it - far from. Ultimately, I did not like Solo. I can usually point to something redeeming in every one of the Star Wars films I didn't fully like (Leia in a space bikini and the Emperor in ROTJ, Duel of the Fates scene in TPM, the clones attacking in AOTC, Executing Order 66 in ROTS, Han and Chewie on the Falcon in TFA, the Twin Suns moment in TLJ), but I can't seem to find anything here. Maybe the Range Trooper design. Maybe the train design. I still have to "search [my] feelings" as I process this and the last batch of Star Wars.
 
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I've seen Solo twice, the first time with four other die-hard SW fans and then the brother in law. We all agreed it was better than LJ.

Storywise, there seems to be more freedom with the stand-alones than with the new trilogies.

A lot of subtle references to canon, EU and old Marvel comics. Sharu, Aurra Sing, Bossk, nekks.

Clint Howard is Opie Cunningham's good luck charm: he's in all of his bro's movies. Like Sam and Ted Raimi.
 

Tycho

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did anyone catch that the street racer name needles was a reference from Back to the Future?

I saw the movie my second time today and liked it just as much. Honestly that is a different feeling from what I had watching The Last Jedi. It's a much better feeling about this.
 

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After Maradona told me of his dislike for the film, I was astonished but tried to go in with as much a clean slate as I could (he wouldn't tell me what he didn't like), so I saw it yesterday with JabbaJohn.

"Solo is at worst so-so"

I didn't hate it, I am surprised anybody could hate it as it's pretty toothless, innocuous even. It's not good enough to be polarizing, it's not bad enough to be horrific. I gave it a 7/10 on IMDB, it's a soft 7 but still pretty much how I felt. I can see why it's not energizing audiences, it's an "ok" blockbuster movie without enough real drive to make it stand out from other effects-driven films, but it's another so-so Star Wars film that I think was hurt by having 3 wrong directors on the project.

Things that stood out for me:
- The opening non-crawl was frustrating and confusing, either stick to one extra title card to set the setting or use a crawl, I don't want to have to memorize what came right before on the next card. And honestly, this should have been show, don't tell, material.
- The script is very clearly a comedy script, but Ron Howard, editor Pietro Scalia, cinematographer Bradford Young, and composer John Powell did not get this at all. There were moments in there that weren't just meant to be humorous, but actually setup and payoff the way a comedy film like Men in Black would do it, but the execution didn't seem to KNOW this. It was shot and cut bafflingly dry and straight to the point where I felt frustrated when those moments would come and go without the direction seeming to understand. And the score would just step all over the comedy with heavy-handed material.
- I didn't like the score, not even John Williams' generic Han theme, I'm listening to it right now and it just feels out of place.
- Visually it was very muddy and dark until the last act, I'm not clear why that was but it took an interesting set of worlds and presented them poorly.
- There were way too many new alien designs, dial it back already.
- That said, the new Kessel droid designs were fun, those I enjoyed.
- I haaaaaated L3-37, I loved the droid rebellion she sparked but I hated the weird, over-the-top SJW parody she was, that was just grating.
- Alden Ehrenreich was too old to play this character.
- Donald Glover is really good as Lando, but his performance was all over the map, sometimes it was a Billy Dee impression, sometimes it was a Lando interpretation, and sometimes it was just Glover's regular young guy voice.
- Recycling old Star Wars musical cues felt like this film wasn't standing on its own legs enough, and they'd be terrible fits with the new music.
- The timeframe shift was interesting, but there should have been more time spent with the pirates.
- Does it really always have to be about a girl?
- Far too much is merely handed to Han, his name, his gun, his skills. I would have liked a different story. He earned the moment at the end when he shoots Tobias, but then goes from the cold bastard who SHOULD shoot first back to the overly emotional guy a second later; I'd rather he have been like Bond at the end of Casino Royale, growing colder and wiser for the pain he's endured.

All that in mind, I would probably watch a sequel to this.
 

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Additions I meant to include above:

- This is yet another heist movie, smugglers aren't thieves, so they really didn't get the point of Han Solo, smuggler, pirate, and rogue none.

- The AT-Hauler vehicle didn't make much sense, why would it need an open gantry underneath, and why would it have a hyperdrive?

- Han's asked his family name, he says he doesn't have one, yet late in the film Han mentions his father on Corellia built these ships. See the issue?
 
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Being out of town (and pressed for time; the Nat'l Museum of Air & Space actually was showing Solo in IMAX that week), I couldn't see it for a second viewing until this week. Some of what I noticed:

- the first words of the film were "C'mon; c'mon; c'mon" by Han hotwiring the speeder
- Anthony Daniels was the voice of someone (a droid, during the rebellion scene, IIRC), and is in the credits (IIRC again, it was for "Tak" or "Tav" ); this keeps his streak alive of being the only actor in all 10 live action non-Ewoks SW films (was he in the animated Clone Wars, too?)
- Alden Ehrenreich had a chin scar (either due to makeup or an actual one)
- Lando says, "I hate you" and Han says, "I know"
- I did hear all three planets/systems from the three Lando novels, and easily saw Therm
- Han doesn't seem to like his family name, not that he doesn't "have" one; I think he just doesn't want any connections to it (for fear of repercussions, resentment at his treatment, anger at it, in his view it's lame like "Fisherman" or "Durricretemason," etc.)
- was the fish-in-a-jar singer always a bass voice? (I seem to recall it as a higher pitched singing voice)
- I wondered why there were kids' voices in songs at certain scenes (now I realize it was when Enfys Nest [sp?] appeared, which gives you a foreshadowing that she is a younger person when she unmasks)
- why didn't the entire train of coaxium [sp?] fuel explode when it fell from the bridge, making an even larger blast than when one single car hit the mountain?
- I noticed a bronze or golden skinned Rodian as part of the Enfys gang
- was the disguise Han had on the mining world a Ubese mask? (and earlier in that same scene, someone tells Lando, after he says something like "mining is awful," that "mining is where the money is" ... hmm)
- I guess I now realize why the Crimson Dawn employees are afraid of "who they work for"

I still like it.
 

Bel-Cam Jos

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The singer in the jar is kinda a "Lapti Nek" thing: deep in the movie, high-pitched on the soundtrack.
I came home to listen to that song and thought the same thing.

Today was my third (and likely final; maybe) viewing, and what did I see and hear?
- I saw the Corellian "founder" mural in the starship departure station (and I saw some graffiti on a wall during the city chase scene, but did not see it clearly)
- Han doesn't seem to have a chin scar on Corellia, but it appears some time after the Mimban scenes
- I will have to see on the DVD what colors were the various "mood" scenes throughout (yellow: city chase, gray: scumrats hideout, blue: Falcon, others?)
- noticed the crystal Xim the Despot skull
- still haven't seen Tag and Bink in their scene(s) yet
- I like the symmetry of Han holding a single vial of coaxium to get a ship at the start the film, and using a similar vial to finally get his ship

Liking it more. In fact, time for a list (LISTS... :drool: )
BEL-CAM'S TOP TEN LIVE-ACTION SW FILMS:
1. ESB
2. ANH
3. R1
4. ROTS
5. Solo
6. ROTJ
7. TLJ
8. TPM
9. AOTC
10. TFA
 

Tycho

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Solo has killed Star Wars Stories movies for now, even though they're going forward with Rian Johnson's new trilogy. The fools.
Solo didn't kill it. Fans deliberately not going to the movie are because they can rip it off of some free viewing medium since they might actually find $12 movie tickets abhorrent, or because they claim they are boycotting the movie because of the Last Jedi and Kathleen Kennedy / Rian Johnson.

This does a horrible disservice to Ron Howard and Emilia Clarke and Donald Glover and Woody Harrelson who is awesome in the movie.

Actually you can't blame Daisy Ridley or Adam Driver or Mark Hamill who all turned in really great performances in tlj. It was the fact that they were not coordinating a story they wanted to tell through through three, films, but haphazardly designing a trilogy like take the ball and pass it. Different writers. You can't do that. That's why the Standalone films are better period Rogue one and Han Solo are great. The force awakens even has a nice setup.

TLJ is what hurt the franchise plus they should not have released two movies 6 months apart. ROTS came out in May of 2005. It was still in the theater and showing a few times a day into October. It was the year that I had my brain aneurysm. I remember going to Indianapolis and the C3 convention and then seeing the movie and going to Comic Con. Then I was in the hospital watching Hurricane Katrina on the TV in the hospital. Then when I was out of the hospital I could still go and see Revenge of the Sith in the movie theater as I was getting exercise practicing walking again. I even saved the movie theater Stubbs.

Apparently Disney felt that almost in the same amount of time they can put two movies out. Especially with the first one winding up being bad, they might have waited for Christmas to bring out solo. I think getting messed up with the directors changing and the expenses might have made them look for a return sooner but they ended up with the loss for that effort.

Some say the Han Solo movie was unnecessary. I don't think that matters. The point is it was fun and I really enjoyed seeing it and would enjoy more films like it. I enjoyed the OT and the PT because they had a point. The New Jedi Order books had a PLAN for habit was going to start and where it was going to end for the force's sake.
 

El Chuxter

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The only thing that hurt the franchise is putting out a movie with a checkered path to the screen one week after Deadpool 2 and two weeks after Infinity War.

Disney tends to overreact to box office shortfalls, so hopefully they figure that out soon. I want the Fett movie before Ray Park is too old to play a convincing Maul.
 
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Took my wife to see if yesterday. It was her first, my third. She liked it. She had questions afterward like, what happens to Qi'ra? Said sorry, honey, we don't know what happened to her and probably won't now.
 
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