Star Wars - The Black Series: 6" Wave 2 Discussion Thread!

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We now have the full line-up for Wave 2 of the 6" Black Series from SDCC.

Leia: Slave Girl, Han Solo: ANH, Greedo, and Boba Fett (Same Figure/No Carbonite Block)

Pretty decent line-up. Glad that Han and Greedo are in the same wave. Wish Boba Fett would have been retooled and repainted as a RotJ version though... so as to be paired with Leia: Slave Girl. But still... awesome sauce.

Though no Prequel figure is a surprise. Guess that means that Anakin and Obi-Wan: ROTS will both be in Wave 3.

Princess Leia: Slave Girl - Wow... they did a fantastic job with nailing every detail of that costume. While it's not my favorite look for Leia by far... it's a great looking figure. Can't wait to get her.

Han Solo: ANH - Han turned out pretty good. Harrison Ford's face is still very difficult for any company to nail. Especially his look from ANH. They seem to do better with ESB and RotJ Han faces.

Greedo - We've already seen and said pretty much everything about this guy. :)

Boba Fett - Ditto for the Fettster. Though I do wish it was the Return of the Jedi version.
 

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Where are you seeing photos of these figures?

EDIT: Never mind I found them. Those are looking pretty sweet. The likeness on the Han figure seems a little muted, so I'm hoping it looks better in the production version.

Leia looks pretty good, but I know we're going to have to endure about a million and one complaints about the overly visible joints on her arms and legs.

I'm glad Boba Fett is the ESB version, this way I can ignore the SDCC set completely.

Greedo still looks really good, but I'm hoping those eyes get painted darker on the final version.
 

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Releasing Han and Greedo together will work to sell more of both of them - this might be their idea for Anakin and Obi-Wan if they do them for wave 3.

I really like all the accessories they gave Han. Overall these are very good choices for the line, so I hope it does well.
 

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Yeah, I just saw that Han comes with the Stormtrooper Belt, Blaster, and Gloved Hands.

If he has the headset as well, it's the definitive Han Solo from A New Hope. Even if not, it's fabu.
 

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They're not out until November.... but we already have carded pics of Wave 2.

Wave 2 looks great. And I like the roster better than Wave 1 as well.

I do wish that Han Solo had his headset as well. But otherwise... he's awesome.
 

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Well there goes another $175. :pleased:

I like the 6 inch line personally. Yes the first wave could have been better, but overall I am satisfied enough to stick with it for now. The choice to focus on OT characters helps sell me on this as as well.

I do wonder, with all the accessories they put in with Han Solo, why they decided to go with a dirty Sandtrooper for wave one with a single orange pauldron. Personally, I think they should have gone with a clean Stormtrooper and multiple pauldron accessories. They made Darth Maul with removable heads so you can change his look, they REALLY should have done the same for the Sandtrooper.

Then Hasbro could have shipped solid cases of Stormtrooper/Sandtroopers. I would have spent $200 just on that one figure!

X1 Boxed MIMB
X2 Stormtrooper
X2 Sandtrooper Orange Pauldron
X2 Sandtrooper Black Pauldron
X2 Sandtrooper White Pauldron

Plus one for the boy. He loves Star Wars, not as much as his old man, but he still gets a kick out of it and he like the 6 inch figures, Iron Man, Spiderman, now he has SW figures to go with his other stuff and they are the same scale.

Oh, even better, since they can do removable heads (ala Darth Maul). They could have done a Stormtrooper with Luke and Han heads!
 

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I do wonder, with all the accessories they put in with Han Solo, why they decided to go with a dirty Sandtrooper for wave one with a single orange pauldron. Personally, I think they should have gone with a clean Stormtrooper and multiple pauldron accessories. They made Darth Maul with removable heads so you can change his look, they REALLY should have done the same for the Sandtrooper.
Well... Hasbro has a sick love of the Sandtrooper. As has been shown in the 3 3/4" line for years.

And given the differences in the armor between the Stormtrooper and Sandtrooper, it's a good thing they didn't.

Especially since people have been complaining about wanting an accurate Sandie for ages.
Oh, even better, since they can do removable heads (ala Darth Maul). They could have done a Stormtrooper with Luke and Han heads!
I'm hoping that when they do Stormtrooper Luke and Han. That the Stormie Luke will be heavily retooled.

Since Luke is "Too Short For A Stormtrooper" after all. The 4" line did a good job of making him that.
 

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Ugh, what happened to Leia's eyes? It's like a cartoon version of Carrie's face, they're recognizable yet horrifying.

I preordered only Han, the rest do nothing for me. Also, what's with the $3 increase, did Hasbro hit the wall that fast?
 

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The eyes I think are just due to Hasbro's awful photography skills. Seen plenty of figures that do that in their press releases. It should most likely look better on the released product. So I wouldn't worry.

And no, the $3.00 increase is just Amazon. Wave 1 went up originally at $22.99 also.
 

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The eyes I think are just due to Hasbro's awful photography skills. Seen plenty of figures that do that in their press releases. It should most likely look better on the released product. So I wouldn't worry.

And no, the $3.00 increase is just Amazon. Wave 1 went up originally at $22.99 also.
Those are not photography issues on those eyes, that's clearly a paint issue, it's showing on the packaged shot as well from a different angle. She looks like a Scooby Doo celebrity guest character that just ran into a monster.
"Hey, it's famous actress and writer Carrie Fisher, what are you doing in this spooky old factory?"
"Hi kids, well I figured I should start working on a backup career in case acting and writing don't pan out, and renovating this old mustard squeeze-bottle factory sounded like a great investment at the time when I got talked into-- Wait, is that a gh-gh-gh-ghost?!?"
"ZOINKS! Like, let's get out of here Scoob! You too, Miss Fisher!"
"*canned laughter*"
"Jinkies!"

Whether it's a production paint issue is another question, and I think that is a production or near-production sample too, based on the amount of flash on the arm joints. That eye paint has all the artistry and nuance of an "OBEY" Andre the Giant stencil slapped on an overpass 15 seconds ago.

The first time I saw the wave 1 6"ers on Amazon was $19.99.
 

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Good news! Looks like there won't be a long wait for Wave 2....

Entertainment Earth has the Wave 2 case in stock right now for $79.99... and with free shipping. :)

Got my case ordered and will be on it's way soon. Guess my Bro gets the Boba Fett.
 

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Why did they make Slave Leia child-sized?

http://www.rebelscum.com/Hasbro-Sta...res/Princess-Leia-Slave-Outfit-05/IMAGE19.asp

Is this now a thing with the 6" line, there will always be 1 underscaled figure per wave? First R2, now Leia. Between the wide hips, doll eyes, and now the child-sized stature, I'm glad I passed on this one.
Not that I plan to buy any of the figures from this wave (although that Han Solo might just impress me enough in person to make an exception), but Leia looks to be about the right height when you consider how freakishly tiny Carrie Fisher really is:
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She looks pretty close to how tall she was in the movie.

If you look at pics of her next to Han. She's 5'1" and Han's 6'1".

I guess they could have just done giant Princess Leia figures like we got for years in POTF2.

But I'd rather they actually do her in a more accurate scale and not the same size as the males.

This sounds like the reaction we got when Hasbro finally started producing accurate sized Leia figures.

That said.... my only real issue with the figure is that I wish they had given her a real chain slave collar.
 

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Not that I plan to buy any of the figures from this wave (although that Han Solo might just impress me enough in person to make an exception), but Leia looks to be about the right height when you consider how freakishly tiny Carrie Fisher really is:
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That pic is kinda weird in scales, Lando huge just because he's a few steps ahead, Chewie pretty short despite again being just a few steps behind. Anyway, if that's an accurate representation, she's still about 10% taller than the figure, compare to the shoulder, and not as petite across either. That weird long neck on the Han figure doesn't help either.

That Han looked really good in person at SDCC, btw, but the production pics have the same bigger painted eyes that the Leia does so there is a tradeoff. I really don't know why the subtlety of the eyes on Luke couldn't be carried forward, the eyes on Leia and Han in wave 2 look so much lesser-than to me.


She looks pretty close to how tall she was in the movie.

If you look at pics of her next to Han. She's 5'1" and Han's 6'1".

I guess they could have just done giant Princess Leia figures like we got for years in POTF2.

But I'd rather they actually do her in a more accurate scale and not the same size as the males.

This sounds like the reaction we got when Hasbro finally started producing accurate sized Leia figures.
:rolleyes: Thanks for the troll-esque responses.

Note in your evidence that the "she expressed her true feelings for me" pic of Leia and Han she comes up to his chin, while the figure doesn't even come up to that Han's shoulders. But whatever, I guess just lump me in with the most ignorant collectors possible to bolster your argument.
 

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Three of those figures actually look pretty good.

But if anyone defends anything about that abortion of a Leia figure, they should find a designated driver until the alcohol's out of their system. :)

(But, in all seriousness, the stature, proportions, face, neck, arms, knees, and especially hips of that figure are just awful. That's inexcusable in a $20 figure.)
 

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That pic is kinda weird in scales, Lando huge just because he's a few steps ahead, Chewie pretty short despite again being just a few steps behind. Anyway, if that's an accurate representation, she's still about 10% taller than the figure, compare to the shoulder, and not as petite across either. That weird long neck on the Han figure doesn't help either.
Well, it's a wide-angle photo, so it's going to create some slight "fisheye" distortion to the image. The combination of the distortion and the depth of field is what indicates to me that it's taken with a wide-angle lens. If the photo was taken with a narrow-angle lens (aka telephoto), then the background wouldn't be so clearly in focus, even Chewbacca would be noticeably out of focus compared to Han and Leia.

Wide-angle lenses create predictable distortion to an image. Objects near the edge of the frame get noticeably distorted, which is why Lando looks so gigantic and the distance between objects within the frame are exaggerated, which is why Chewbacca looks so tiny. So, if anything, this photo would be making Leia appear larger than she actually is, not smaller.

Also, in those close-cropped images of the actors (like the one Beast posted), where you are only supposed to be focusing on their faces and their expressions, sometimes they will have shorter actors standing on boxes or platforms in order to frame the shot better. So if you can't see the actors' feet, then the image is not reliable at all for determining scale.

I do agree that the 6" Han Solo's long neck is throwing the height comparison off. Plus, the fact that every figure in this line so far has a pinhead doesn't help. If Leia's head was larger, then your mind would be telling you that she's just short, but since they made her head too small, then she ends up looking improperly scaled.

Three of those figures actually look pretty good.

But if anyone defends anything about that abortion of a Leia figure, they should find a designated driver until the alcohol's out of their system. :)
I don't think the figure looks good at all, but I'm just saying that the height of the figure seems to be the one thing that Hasbro didn't get wrong.
 

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I have to say that after seeing the photo of the "giant" POTF2 Slave Leia, I can't help but wonder what that figure would look like standing next to the 6" Slave Leia. Would there even be much of a size difference?
 

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Adam Pawlus' review pointed out that Han's eyes aren't even the right color - and he doesn't have his chin scar. The figure looks pretty phenomenal other than that (though I've yet to see it in person), but how could they fumble such obvious details?
 
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