Star Wars - The Black Series: 6" Wave 2 Discussion Thread!

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So Amazon delivered my 6" Han Solo, and the QC fail is minimal, just some white paint transfer on the figure's behind and a mispainted bloodstripe on the right side.

The figure overall is very good. The likeness has issues straight-on, but from above and from either side it's good. The issues are the blue eyes and the mouth isn't quite the right width. The shiny plastic used isn't as nice as Luke's painted plastic, but it does have a sweaty look that kinda works for what it is. The hair paint is very good though, layered but not as extreme as Luke's.

The sculpting on Han isn't quite as sharp overall as Luke which takes some nuance and quality away, but there are a few bright spots.

Paint is decent overall, a few little sloppy areas but nothing worse than wave 1. Not quite as nuanced as Luke, but more than Maul.

The anatomy is a little dubious, the forearms are a bit too long, the neck is a bit too long (although not as bad as it seems), and with the vest off the figure seems almost emaciated. But generally it holds up, if you don't mind the mid-torso articulation being pretty low down. The articulation is fairly good, the same as the wave 1 non-armored figures in the line, and I think I would have preferred double joints on the elbows over the singles which bend just past 90 degrees. The figure stands a little too tall for my tastes not just because of the neck but the shoulders seem high compared to the Sandtrooper, but it's minimal, maybe 5% to the eye.

There is one point of articulation they changed actually, it's the wrist hinge on the right wrist, where wave 1 had an up-down hinge this figure has a side-side hinge and it's a shame because that's the gun hand. Both sets of hands have this as well, and the joints are very small compared to the gloved hands of wave 1 figures despite being removable pegs - a very odd choice that hopefully doesn't cause drama down the road.

The stormtrooper belt is pretty good, only thing missing is the right hip box - no idea why they cut that. The holster works very well, and even though the belt is cast in brown and painted white, the holster is painted black on the inside, nice touch.

The gunbelt is good as well, nice sculpt and good paint, good details. The strap holding the pistol into the holster is very fine and I suspect it'll eventually rip at its peg, it's also permanently bent to look right closed which makes it difficult to get out of the way to get the pistol in.

The E-11 Stormtrooper blaster is the same as the Sandtrooper one I think, I haven't compared. No paint, just black plastic.

The DL-44 blaster pistol is nice, some details didn't come through like the air-cooling fins on the front and the left side indent, but many did like the muzzle holes. Paint is silver weathering, a brown grip (the whole grip, not like Luke's), and the silver on the front muzzle (but oddly not the back half of the muzzle). It's perfectly scaled to Luke's DL-44 as well despite being a different sculpt. It fits into the holster but takes a little effort to get exactly right.

The gloved hands are decent, the right hand a trigger pull pose and the left hand a wide-open C shape to cradle the right hand for blaster poses. The non-gloved hands are a little better, the right a trigger pose again and not quite able to reach the trigger on the E-11 nicely but looks good close; the left hand is a tight cupped shape designed specifically to cradle the E-11's barrel.

One pointless nit to pick, the peg holes in the feet are WAY bigger than wave 1's.



Adam Pawlus' review pointed out that Han's eyes aren't even the right color - and he doesn't have his chin scar. The figure looks pretty phenomenal other than that (though I've yet to see it in person), but how could they fumble such obvious details?
I think the blame is probably on the Chinese factory, but it could be Lucas Licensing stopped giving a crap. In person, it's more a sense that something is wrong than a true visual attack of a problem because it barely shows in normal light.

Yes, the scar is there, but because of the plastic used it can't be seen in normal light, you have to blast it with light to get it to show, and it's a blob in person.

Hmm, looks like you're right. Here's Galactic Hunter's review for reference. It's a little too subtle, but it does look like it's there.
The Galactic Hunters Review pictures are cartoonish. I hope they just used the wrong lens...
It's not just the lens, although it is that, but also the subject is too close to the lens and the choice of lighting is all wrong so that it's getting fisheyed and distorted. The figure looks nothing like that in person, much more realistic, here's a quick snap from my cell with and without flash, at distance and then up close:
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Yeah, Han could use a little time in the gym too. He's not particularly bulky in the film, but this figure takes it a tad far with that skinny frame.

Also, note the different in the eyes between Luke and Han there, that's something that takes this line back to toytown officially with wave 2, and it's a shame because the paint work on Luke is what gave me the most hope for the future of this line. Now, I dunno, maybe it'll get out of the doldrums, but I see Leia and Bespin Luke and it's awful, Han isn't as bad but still a backslide. Hopefully this is where the line holds though.

You're welcome, I figure it's a good enough figure to warrant conversation, and I didn't have a lot of positive to say about wave 1 so it's nice to see something work. Plus, this is the first Han figure in ages worth a crap in any Hasbro scale.

I passed on Boba Fett on purpose, there are too many sculpt issues that hold it back for my tastes - the immobile viewfinder, the wookiee braids, the rigid belt packs, the hoses, that stuff kept me from going after it.
 

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I saw Han live out in the wild today. He looks alot better than I expected, I wish I would have picked him up. I went back and forth on him and ended up putting him back.

I received Leia today. Her face isn't too bad, but she has an odd look on her face. I haven't opened it yet, but the joints in the legs look bad; probably due to it being skin and not clothes.
 

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The figure overall is very good. The likeness has issues straight-on, but from above and from either side it's good.
From what I can see, in terms of the likeness, Han's eyes seem to be a bit too close together; but that could just be an illusion created by paint apps. However, the eyebrows seem to be the biggest problem: they are too thick, too arched, and too high on his forehead.

As it is, the figure definitely feels like a much more "glammed up" version of Han Solo, when he really needs to look more rugged and scruffy.
 

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I picked up Han, Leia, and Greedo at Target today - no sign of Boba - but haven't had time to open them. The paint apps look significantly better than wave 1 did at first; there was only one of each figure and they were all acceptable. Han's chest is a little off and so are Leia's eyes. But they do look very cool.

Han is definitely too skinny, though I want to see how it is out of the package and everything. It's not as bad as the legs on the VOTC figure, but I really don't know why Hasbro insists he was SO skinny.
 

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I got Boba Fett yesterday. I love it!!

I also want to get Han and Greedo..not so sure about Leia. We shall see.
 

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Of the three I got, they're all pretty freakin' sweet. Han is probably the best - his accessories are numerous and well executed. The blue eyes are annoying but not that bad. Greedo is also great, though I think he's too tall and the oval eyes throw off the look. I also wish he was better able to rotate his head from side to side more, as he does in the film. Leia is short, but frankly probably not TOO out of scale since Carrie was so tiny in real life even if they tried to hide it in the films. Her eyes are a little cartoony but don't seriously detract from the figure in any real way.

As a whole, they're just plain cool. I figure this wave is probably a better representation of what much of the line will be like, and I'm definitely a fan.
 

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I figure this wave is probably a better representation of what much of the line will be like, and I'm definitely a fan.
I'm with you 100% on this..when I got Maul and opened up I was very impressed with the detail, articulation, and overall feel of the figure. I skipped the rest and was holding out for Boba. Now that I have him as well I think that it's time I get the rest of wave 2.

This line officially has me hooked, and it's great to be excited about Star Wars toys again.
 

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Finally opened Leia. As long as you don't spin the legs, she's not bad. The expression on her face is emotionless, none the less. They did give her slumped over shoulders which, pardon the phrase, leads to sagging. Still waiting on my Boba Fett.

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Next time I see Han though, I am getting him.
 

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I saw Greedo and Leia today at a K-Mart (which had previously had no TBS figures in any scale).

Greedo had silver paint all over his face. It looked like his eye was overpainted, only, um, it was silver. I wasn't entirely able to figure that one out.

The Leia, and I swear I'm not kidding, looked more like Harrison Ford than about 3/4 of the smaller Han Solo figures. I'm not sure if it was poor paint or what, but it was downright creepy, like Han decided to cross-dress in his wife's old underwear.
 

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I received Boba Fett yesterday and love him. Probably the best 6" figure I have. He is the first one where the accessories are actually relevant and all are usable at one time. Even though he is somewhat bulky, he is pretty easily pose-able. I only have two minor complaints. The paint job on the rocket back is very poorly done. I know that Boba, unlike Jango, is in earth tones, but I have regular figures with a better paint job. It is literally the greenish-grey color all over with silver scratches. I might buy some paint to fix it up. My second complaint is his rifle butt is either too big, or his joints are not allowing him to hold it correctly. It doesn't fit well into the elbow and either has to be bent inward, or slightly rotated underneath.

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I received Boba Fett yesterday and love him. Probably the best 6" figure I have.
Congrats!! I agree with all of your points on Boba..he is about as close to a perfect 6 inch figure as we could get, minus a few small issues. I may be greedy, but I want a second one now just to keep displayed in its packaging.

Until then, I am looking for the rest of wave 2, especially Han and Greedo.
 
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Bought my first BS 6-inch the other day. Lucky to find Han. Mr. Fett wasn't here, but I do want to get him eventually.

Haven't opened Han yet. Love the accessories. The paint job does look better than the first wave.
 
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