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Rocketboy

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Bucky is in Captain America, slashfilm.com said the other day that the film is somehow bookends with Cap on ice and that Evans is signed for Cap and Avengers trilogies (and possibly smaller appearances in 3 other Marvel flicks).
 

El Chuxter

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In my own personal Marvel Universe, Bucky Barnes stayed dead. He's hanging out in the afterlife with Uncle Ben and Jason Todd, wondering why they're the only three dead guys to never return to life.
 

Blue2th

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I haven't seen it yet, but will. Any film that's got fantasy versions of secret German weapons of WWII is got to be intriguing. I saw a shot of a flying wing, much like the one in Raiders of the Lost Ark, both of which are close in shape to an actual jet the Germans built, tested and nearly deployed.

I did buy a Red Skull figure recently. He's pretty cool looking and will sit nicely in my diecast Mercedes WWII parade car riding with other fantasy villains like Cobra Commander.

Tycho if you haven't seen the trailer for Lucas' "Redtails" yet you need to check it out. The link's in Chux's thread if you can't find it.
 

Snowtrooper

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I've gotten a little tired of all these superhero movies, but this one I'm actually wanting to go and see. Just have to try to get around to it, hopefully.
 

mabudonicus

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It was a really fine film, I thought, decent pacing, lots of nods to Marvel fans, funny without being too "cute" or ridiculous. I was also impressed at how patriotism was depicted- the most "rah rah USA" types were nowhere near the actual fighting, which was refreshing considering how such elements could have been handled.

My only gripe, really, was that it felt like far too much ground was covered way too quickly (and too close to the actual end of the film) in that montage bit. Thinking it through afterwards, tho, I can see what made that happen, since I can't think of too many parts that could have been truncated or completely excised without really changing the tone of the finished film.

A solid must-see for fans of the character, but still recommended to anyone who likes fun, well-made action/adventure films.
:beard: Iso&Baws&Topes

A great film, in my opinion.
 

JediTricks

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This is the only summer movie I've been at all tempted to see so far, but I haven't gone yet. I guess the casting is part of the problem, Chris Evans is a little difficult for me to buy as Cap, and as much as I loved The Rocketeer, Joe Johnston's directing in general doesn't really have much life to it. When you add that to the fact that movies are WAY expensive these days, and everything is trying to force 3D at my eyeballs which I don't care for, you get a rather untempting market. I'm looking at all the movies playing by me, and it seems mediocrity is ruling the day.

Bottom line, I want to go, I just don't seem entirely drawn to going.
 

mabudonicus

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Oh yeah I totally forgot it was in 3D. I refused to pay the premium (and besides my glasses don't play nice with 3-d glasses due to my giant head) and went for the 2D showing. Turns out it was in the biggest theatre in the multiplex, with the best sound etc, so it felt like I got a lot more for paying less. A few folks I know who saw it in 3-D said there seemed to be only two scenes where it was apparently even in 3-D, so there's that, too.
:beard: Iso&Baws&Topes
Still a good film, you will like it JT
 

El Chuxter

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GET OUT OF THIS THRED MADUBON!!!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

THIS IS NOT CAPTIN CANNADA!!! WE SAVED UR BUTS FRUM THE RUSSIANS IN THE CIVEL WAR AND LIBERTY-ATED THERMOP--THERMOPO--**** IT, YOU KNOW THE MOVE FROM 300!!!!!

STOOPED CANADAN!!!!
 

bigbarada

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Watched it today and found it to be a very enjoyable film. Not perfect, however. As I've come to expect from Johnston, the action scenes felt oddly paced in an almost imperceptible way, as if everything was just 10-20 frames off from what it should have been. The movie had a lot of heart, though, and Chris Evans did a great job as Steve Rogers. I didn't see a hint of the Human Torch in his performance at all (although, the Human Torch is in the film for anyone who is paying attention).

I think the earnestness of the film really sold it for me. You're definitely rooting for Steve right from the very beginning.

I didn't really stick around after the credits to see if there was any hidden scenes. I already know there is an Avengers movie coming out, so I can't think of any information the movie could reveal that would be critical enough for me to not just wait to watch it on DVD.
 

Mad Slanted Powers

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I saw it on Sunday night. I enjoyed it quite a bit, and the people I was with seemed to like and are looking forward to the Avengers movie. The only other one tied to the Avengers that I have seen so far is the first Iron Man, so I'll need to watch Iron Man 2 and Thor, and apparently the last Hulk movie as well. I've never followed the comics so how it tied in with that wasn't an issue for me.
 

JediTricks

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Well, I caught it on Friday at the Pacific 12, holy crap are they expensive. Matinee was $9.50 which I guess isn't too bad, but small popcorn was $5.75, small drink $5.25, they are CRAZY high prices, I love movie popcorn but no way in hell I'm supporting that - especially from a corporate chain. Movie had, no exaggeration, 6 or more trailers before it, almost none of which had any connection to Cap.

Anyway, once the movie started, I tried to get into it, but ultimately it felt like what I feared, something was missing, it was just "ok" because there's so much time spent trying to make an origin story setting up the Avengers movie. Too much time was used up with origins here that they ended up doing montages of the good stuff with the characters and the battles most of the time. Cap has no vulnerability which makes his original stands in the face of adversity meaningless to his character now. The villains are so uninteresting too, they have the motivation to target "everything" "everywhere" at once? Tommy Lee Jones just feels like a Tommy Lee Jones character, no nuance. Red Skull doesn't even feel like a character, just a pastiche of other scene-chewing movie villains that go way over the top in these sorts of things. The stuff with now-adult Bucky also seemed odd, but I think this probably worked for audiences new to the material, and I think was already setting up Winter Soldier even before his odd, fateful "death" scene. I dunno, the film just sort of runs out of gas about halfway through Steve getting annoyed with being a stage show, there are a lot of good period ideas and some good nods to the comics material, but Johnston rarely seems to get a human feel to anything here - the only scene where I felt anything about the characters being people was when scrawny Steve throws himself on the grenade, that bit got me. And the culminating fight between hero and villain didn't feel like ANYTHING, and then it just ends in a big odd fashion without explanation - I think that was a massively missed opportunity. Also, this film has the Invaders and Howling Commandos, but never does much with them, leaving it feeling like there was either a lot of material cut out of the theatrical film that hopefully will make a directors cut a better movie, or that they really are just prop pieces.

The one area I can give a little nod to, I think they were pretty successful with the digital mini-Steve, I could always tell there was some digital shenanigans going on but it never seemed as significant as what they really did to get it there (they did make him like under 5' in some shots though). There was too much digital background going on, that felt more obvious
 

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Another Marvel superhero movie, courtesy of a free cable weekend: Cap Comes Back: Just Keep Winterin' & Soldierin'. It was okay. I was never surprised at who WS was, and I was spoiler free even until I saw the movie this late.
 

El Chuxter

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You are the first person I know who's described The Winter Soldier as "okay." Most people put it on par with, or even above, Guardians of the Galaxy.

And since you resurrected the thread, Civil War looks absolutely incredible so far. I have a feeling that there will be a clear winner among which hero vs hero movie of 2016 reigns supreme.

(And this is coming from someone who thinks the comic it took its name from is one of the rankest turds in comic book history.)
 

JediTricks

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I also felt that Winter Soldier was only "ok", but to be fair, I felt similarly about GOTG so it's on par still. So what Chuxter said is true... from a certain point of view. There isn't enough story for the titular character, it feels hollow and small. The rest is very Avengers-wannabe with "dark tones" and complicated plots, but never did much for me.


My feelings on Cap 1 have softened, everything I said in the above review is true, but I appreciate the spirit in it more than when I first saw it, and that spirit really carries it well, it's in my 2nd tier for Marvel movies, pushing up against top tier.
 

Maradona

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I usually go into movies that are critically acclaimed with a high degree of skepticism. It's as though I'm looking for something to balance out all the raves. Last night, I took this mentality into seeing Captain America: Civil War. The film was spectacular. I'm cautious not to spoil anything, but everyone has seen Spiderman and Black Panther in the trailers and they were absolutely amazing, as was Ant Man. It seemed like every character in the film was afforded at least a few memorable moments and more than a few fun lines. Fun strikes me as an important word here maybe because the other "hero fighting hero" movie that came out this year deliberately lacked this quality in its entirety.
 

El Chuxter

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My God, Civil War was a masterpiece. I really don't understand people who complain these movies are childish; to paraphrase a Jewish carpenter, fanboy does not live by DC alone.