Which figure would you accept as a substitute for blue Snaggletoothe in the new line?

HEY! Look at the picture in the first post before you vote!

  • I want a blue deco'd Zutton w/ height change

    Votes: 7 15.6%
  • I want the Non-Snivvian from Cloud City (Treva Horme)

    Votes: 7 15.6%
  • I want the Snivvian from Cloud City (Wiorkettle)

    Votes: 13 28.9%
  • I want the alien Bespin Guard (Utriss M'Toc, the Imzig)

    Votes: 7 15.6%
  • I don't want any of these figures

    Votes: 11 24.4%

  • Total voters
    45
  • Poll closed .

Tycho

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Hey! See the picture below BEFORE YOU VOTE!


Nostalgic fans want all the original 102 characters made in the vintage line by Kenner, remade up to modern standards by Hasbro today.

Probably the most controversial figure amongst the 12-15 you could make a case for still needing re-doing, is "Blue Snaggletoothe."

Originally, Zutton appeared in both A New Hope, and the Holiday Special. But he was cut out of ANH in editing. Takeel got left in (seated near where Han blasts Greedo). Kenner only had a black and white set photo to work with, and since Zutton was seated, they had no idea he was a shorter alien - or what color his costume was.

Kenner released a blue Snaggletoothe with the special Sears catalog special cardboard catina (yes they had exclusives back then, too). He was a standard height and wearing blue.

When the Holiday Special aired, and Lucasfilm caught Kenner's error, the figure was corrected (just like Luke's glove on the wrong hand thing today), and red Snaggletoothe, an authentic Zutton for the vintage line, was released on a 21-back card shortly before The Empire Strikes Back figures were released.

Today, Blue Snaggletoothe is regarded as an error figure, but a highly valuable one since the red figure is more common.

The Question is, for nostalgia's sake does a blue Snaggletoothe have merit in today's line?

Old (and incorrect rumors) had it that Kenner had made the error because they had confused images of the other characters shown to you in this poll: Treva Horme and Utriss M'Toc. Seeing them in the image attached, that's a little hard to believe.

However, these characters, or another Snivvian (Wiorkettle wore blue)might make a good replacement for some nostalgic fans who still count Blue Snaggletoothe as another true figure of the vintage collection.

Additionally, Cloud City has some good offerings (like the Ice Cream Maker Guy) that are often overlooked, and Empire Strikes Back remains the film with the least amount of new character offerings.

Wiorkettle offers another true Snivvian, and a female I believe.

Treva Homre is also female, and a very interesting alien at that.

Utriss M'Toc shows by example that not only humans could serve the infamous Bespin Wing Guard (Lando's security troops).

My poorly photoshopped blue Zutton stands in for those who want an exact replacement for the vintage Snaggletoothe, though Hasbro would need to alter his height.

Which one do you like?
 
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Kidhuman

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I picked the Wiorkettle. Looks kinda cool. The Bespin Guard looks like something off of Star Trek for me. But thats me and you are you. How doyou vote?
 

JediBoulton

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Tycho said:
Hey! See the picture below BEFORE YOU VOTE!


Nostalgic fans want all the original 102 characters made in the vintage line by Kenner, remade up to modern standards by Hasbro today.

Probably the most controversial figure amongst the 12-15 you could make a case for still needing re-doing, is "Blue Snaggletoothe."

Originally, Zutton appeared in both A New Hope, and the Holiday Special. But he was cut out of ANH in editing. Takeel got left in (seated near where Han blasts Greedo). Kenner only had a black and white set photo to work with, and since Zutton was seated, they had no idea he was a shorter alien - or what color his costume was.

Kenner released a blue Snaggletoothe with the special Sears catalog special cardboard catina (yes they had exclusives back then, too). He was a standard height and wearing blue.

When the Holiday Special aired, and Lucasfilm caught Kenner's error, the figure was corrected (just like Luke's glove on the wrong hand thing today), and red Snaggletoothe, an authentic Zutton for the vintage line, was released on a 21-back card shortly before The Empire Strikes Back figures were released.

Today, Blue Snaggletoothe is regarded as an error figure, but a highly valuable one since the red figure is more common.

The Question is, for nostalgia's sake does a blue Snaggletoothe have merit in today's line?

Old (and incorrect rumors) had it that Kenner had made the error because they had confused images of the other characters shown to you in this poll: Treva Horme and Utriss M'Toc. Seeing them in the image attached, that's a little hard to believe.

However, these characters, or another Snivvian (Wiorkettle wore blue)might make a good replacement for some nostalgic fans who still count Blue Snaggletoothe as another true figure of the vintage collection.

Additionally, Cloud City has some good offerings (like the Ice Cream Maker Guy) that are often overlooked, and Empire Strikes Back remains the film with the least amount of new character offerings.

Wiorkettle offers another true Snivvian, and a female I believe.

Treva Homre is also female, and a very interesting alien at that.

Utriss M'Toc shows by example that not only humans could serve the infamous Bespin Wing Guard (Lando's security troops).

My poorly photoshopped blue Zutton stands in for those who want an exact replacement for the vintage Snaggletoothe, though Hasbro would need to alter his height.

Which one do you like?

I don't want ANY of these figures -- I want the ORIGIONAL BLUE SNAGGLETOOTH FIGURE -- ERROR or NOT!! -- Thats the whole POINT!!

Hasbro can even release him as the "Error Character" and list this story on the cardback -- that would make the figure even more interesting!!

A REPAINT is out of the question -- whats the point! :eek:

Treva Horme looks like a "repaint" of Yakface -- and probably will be if they make this figure. :dead:

Utriss M'Toc is just another Bespin Security Guard -- big deal!! :frus:

Wiorkettle is the only different figure -- but it looks bad "the picture" -- its a girl snaggletooth it looks like. : :cry:

Hasbro can spend a little time looking over the "vintage blue" and create something that really looks like the "error" figure.
 

Tycho

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JediBoulton, I'm not sure what you meant. You want a re-release of the exact vintage mold of Blue Snaggletoothe?

The choice of the Zutton picture I photoshopped, was to represent repainting the POTJ figure and perhaps giving him full height to truly simulate the error Kenner made back then. But it's not an exact re-release.

The idea of explaining the history of that figure on the cardback is pretty cool and goes in line with what they did with Han Hoth's blue coat and brown coat. Great thinking on your part!

But please tell us which you'd want. (and sorry if that poll choice wasn't clear).
 

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I want Treva Horme and Wiorkette, both. But since I can only choose one, I'll go with Wiorkette since that would be the approximation of a proper Blue Snaggletooth that actually appeared in the movie. Utriss M'Toc I believe might have actually been a photoshopped Alien for Decipher, and not in the actual movie. I'd have to look again. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

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kidhuman said:
The Bespin Guard looks like something off of Star Trek for me. But thats me and you are you. How doyou vote?
That was my first thought when I saw the alien BSG. It smacks of someone out of Voyager or TNG.

I voted for none of the above. None of them interest me at all. If I were to get any of them it would be an original blue snaggletooth, like JediBoulton said. Why get a repaint like the clean/dirty biker scout?

I'd rather get a character with some screentime faster than 0.1 nanosecond which is what these 3 ESB aliens have because I don't remember seeing any of them at all in any of the movies.

Ask again in 2010, Tycho, once there are no substantial characters/resculpts left for Hasbro to do. :)
 

JediBoulton

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Tycho said:
JediBoulton, I'm not sure what you meant. You want a re-release of the exact vintage mold of Blue Snaggletoothe?

The choice of the Zutton picture I photoshopped, was to represent repainting the POTJ figure and perhaps giving him full height to truly simulate the error Kenner made back then. But it's not an exact re-release.

The idea of explaining the history of that figure on the cardback is pretty cool and goes in line with what they did with Han Hoth's blue coat and brown coat. Great thinking on your part!

But please tell us which you'd want. (and sorry if that poll choice wasn't clear).
My Bad Tycho :D

I do NOT want a Vintage figure recreated ( i would like to get the vintage figure though :crazed: )

If we can get a Zutton with the full height added and a color change -- that would be great! -- if possible -- we need to change my vote :)
 

Tycho

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JediTricks could modify that:

1) erasing a vote for none above
2) adding a vote for a Zutton repaint
3) adding that the blue Zutton would have a height change in the description, instead of "and photoshop" like I put it. Sounds like he comes with software, heh-heh. It could say "simulated with photoshop."

I don't have the editing control I used too this new forum setup.

By the way, Mandalorian Candidate, the whole appeal of these 1-sec or even cut-from-screen characters is that they are unique sculpts and I'm kind of a fan of how cool they can turn out - characters like Ephant Mon. Even the Duro was barely on screen, as well as Bo Shek. Aurra Sing was closer to these folks screen time, but she got more pixels ;) Still, Jango Fett wore blue. They could always do another figure of him instead. I mean they will anyway so kids old enough to understand SW by the time of Episode 3 (and not swallow the toys they teeth on) will be able to get him at regular retail when they're old enough. There are still some adult collectors out there who don't have much time and plan to see all the prequels for their first time when they can watch them back-to-back on DVD. Few, but some. They might collect on a whim once they've seen the movies. Clones are cool, you know?

But I meant to treat Cloud City with at least some of the respect Jabba's Palace and the Cantina get. There was the intention of having characters make appearances there in the same striking manner as aliens do elsewhere in the SW galaxy. But for whatever reason, they didn't keep it in the final cut of the movie, and it's a human running with an ice cream maker that gets all the attention in the end.
 
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I voted for a re-painted Zutton. They could release the new figure on a special "one-time only" blue POTJ card. I believe this would make the figure more unique and sought after by collectors. I think that Wiorkette looks cool, but I would rather have the blue Zutton. The other possible characters will probably never be made...including the Wiorkette figure!
 

JediBoulton

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TheDarthVader said:
I voted for a re-painted Zutton. They could release the new figure on a special "one-time only" blue POTJ card. I believe this would make the figure more unique and sought after by collectors. I think that Wiorkette looks cool, but I would rather have the blue Zutton. The other possible characters will probably never be made...including the Wiorkette figure!
Well -- why not a "Purple Card" -- with the explaination of what happened on the back. This would be an AWSOME Figure!!

Maybe -- also as with the POTF figures -- include a "card" that shows the origional cantina set that the Vintage figure came with --

HASBRO -- are you out there taking notes ?!?!
 

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I was one of the guys that voted for "do not want any." I like obscure aliens and all, but in the end the blue snaggletooth was an error. I don't need anything to step up and replace it, especially since we have got other aliens to fill the void. This isn't to say that if any of these figures were made I wouldn't buy them, I just wouldn't go out of my way to look for them.

It is just like Wat Tambor. I wouldn't have made any special effort to get this guy, but I walked into target one day and saw him there so I got him. I have one now and will display him with the genosian war room if I ever pick that thing up. Bottom line for me, all the guys in the poll might make great figures, but like Wat (a good looking figure) no big whoop.
 

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blue snagg update

It'd be cool to see blue snagg updated, but I seriously doubt Hasbro would update an "error" figure when they've updated the correct form already. (but then w/ Hasbro, any fig is possible) I like 3 of the 4 listed above to be made into figs except the repaint of current Zutton- that's too blah!
Since blue snagg was issued as a SW fig not ESB, these 3 wound not suffice. I personaly nick name my blue snagg "Tekkel" who already has a potf2 updated form. Hey if the vintage Greedo and "Walrusman" are acceptable vintage figs for thier movie counterpart then blue snagg makes a fair Tekkel
 

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Ps

PS there is a Snivian on Jabba's sail barge that looks most like the blue snagg than the 4 listed above

maybe w/ Hasbro's new concept of theme related waves for 2004, maybe we can hope for those 3 Cloud city suggestions and an IMPROVED Leia in Bespin Gown and the former CD-Rom Dinning room encounter Vader to be released
 

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If we're talking about blue Snaggletooth I'd said Wiorkettle would be best substitute. Only because Wiorkettle is the same species as Zutton. I personal have never the alien Bespin Guard or other Cloud City alien. And I don't like the idea of a repainted Zutton, just to have a remake of a vintage mistake.
 

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Hmm...

I say...Give us Wiorkettle & Treva Horme as a 2 pack. MOST of the photos showing them, have them together. I "think" there is a backstory (EU) that they are supposed to be a couple, or at least close associates.



My official vote, goes to a repaint/reculpt Zutton.

Provided he has longer legs, pale skin, red eyes, and black hair like the vintage one.

I think the "silver" style cardback would be fine, since those have an explantion type back anyway.

The question remains.........what would they call him?

Should he just be labeled "Blue Snaggletooth", or something more creative?

Me personally, I'd like plain SNAGGLETOOTH just fine.

I'd even buy it if it were in a baggie, or a white mailer box.

Whatever, just make the dang thing!
 

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Here's what I think Hasbro should do. Release ALL of the characters but re-issue the vintage Sears Cantina Blue Snaggletooth as a Commemorative Edition. This will please the nostalgic fans as well as put something that has been an extremely rare collectible into the hands of everyone who missed out on it as a child. In fact, I don't see why Hasbro does not re-issue the old Cantina set or re-issue old vintage figures in original packaging again like they did shortly after Return of the Jedi with the Landspeeder, Tie Fighter, X-Wing and Dewback. They at least re-issued Generation 1 Transormers again, why not Vintage Star Wars? I think we need a new poll for this one.
 

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Tycho, changes made. You should tell Steve about you being unable to alter the poll once its gone up.

I voted for none of the above - if we go with this, why not Walrusman in gaudy purple & orange outfit or Luke with yellow lightsaber or Greedo with wonky green duds or any of the other myriad of Kenner goof ups from '78 to '85? Just because Hasbro released POTF2 Endor Han with blue pants first doesn't mean the Saga figure should be released that way too, so I don't understand a need for a tall, blue Snags when we already have 1 Snags too many in the modern line for my tastes. ;)
 
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I said Treva Horme, but I'm unclear on what the real question really is.

As JT said, why bother with characters who weren't in the films (if we're talking about Hasbro errors in design)? I mean, you get the vintage screw up (if you want a complete collection) and forget it.

There are a host of characters who have yet to be shrunk into 3" versions of themselves. I don't see the point in rehashing a mistake. Two blue Snaggletooths don't make a right. :)
 

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is common sense creeping into a SSG poll? for once, there are as many people voting for no figure as there are for ALL FIGURES! this is great. leave snaggletooth alone. the wonderful thing about the customizing aftermarket is that collectors who are truly fanatical about having collections to display on the wall can get all sorts of odd things, a custom blue snaggletooth modeled with the new zutton body for instance.

i had the blue and red snaggletooths as a kid and probably sold them both together with a beach ball for $.50 at a garage sale in 1986. a complete remake of the old star wars line isn't as interesting to me as well-made, definitive figures of NEW characters that haven't yet seen life in plastic. take it from toybiz- they stopped making 100 repaints of cyclops and wolverine and started making detailed and well-thought-out figures for the legends line and people started to take notice.